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brightly_lit ([personal profile] brightly_lit) wrote2013-10-09 09:07 pm

9.01, or, Carver does it again

Just saw 9.01 and loved it. And wow, my previous two posts sure did get jossed a lot, occasionally more or less word for word .... Ah, well; I always seem to find my way to the same wavelength with the writers. Consider this a blanket warning that any of my future fics (now that I'm keeping up with the show in real time) may end up spoily.

So apparently Sam really DOES only want death. And is his request for assurance from Death that he STAY DEAD the whole reason he didn't look for Dean when he "thought he was dead"--Sam assumed that Dean must feel the same way he does and want to stay dead? Makes sense. (I heard Carver said they would continue to go into that issue in the show, yay!) "Sacrifice" was magnificent, and 9.01 was all I would have hoped for out of a follow-up. Hurt!Sam and hurt!Cas and hurt!Dean, oh my! And feels, all the feels! *drooooool*

Loves me some Tahmoh! And ooh, as hurt!Dean scenes go, his angel beatdown was imo one of the BEST. EVER. I may even get to see 9.02 next week on something bigger than a teeny screen!!

[identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com 2013-10-10 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
but that moment with head!Dean where he takes his wrists and pats his face. Sam wants - NEEDS - his brother to let go of him.

Oh, yes yes yes yes! Sam was so withdrawn, such a shadow of himself all through S8, seeming just so exhausted. Dean drags him on and on and on, and never asks what Sam wants, and yes, as you say, it's stupid and selfish, considering he's now SEEN IN SAM'S MIND WHAT HE WANTS. Of COURSE Sam just wants it to be over. He's never had any say in what his life's like, he's always hated hunting, but no one will let him get out. Poor Sam, oh god, I love it.

I LOVE DEATH TOO. It makes me so happy to see his face and hear that unique accent--he DOES steal every scene. I can't believe that actor isn't in EVERYTHING.

Dean telling Cas to take care of himself for once gave me so many feels.

I KNOW, and how every time one of them needs the other they always just miss each other, because Dean is too unforgiving, and Cas is too naive, ARGHHHH, feels yes. It feels so good to gush over this with someone!

[identity profile] toratio.livejournal.com 2013-10-10 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Sam was in a really bad place in season 8. I think it was season 7 that took him to that place, though. He was just surviving in season 7, dealing with Lucifer, and then losing his brother. He loves Dean, but he kind of actually loves him in a healthy way.

I get why Dean feels the way he does though. I mean, Sam is his life. I do tend to have more sympathy for Sam, but Dean makes me all kinds of sad for him too.

Cas is always Dean's go-to person when he needs something he can't get from Sam for one reason or another. And I think sometimes Dean's relationship with Cas is the reverse of Sam and Dean's relationship - Dean is the Sam in that relationship, if that makes sense.

I think being human is going to force Cas to grow up. Which is good and bad. But he's such a sweetheart sometimes. And he's like "I'm fine, what about Sam?" And I'm kind of a sassy shipper somewhere in the back of my mind and I'm like HE TOTALLY LOVES SAM!'

BTW I'm friending you, hope you don't mind. GAAAH THE FEELS ARE BURNING!

I need to un-feel and I just can't...

[identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com 2013-10-11 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm such a Sam girl, I always tend to have more sympathy for Sam, but yeah, I don't really see what else Dean could have done that, you know, Dean would actually do. Our poor tragic boys, and tragic Cas, too!!

Ooh, Dean is the Sam in that relationship--I like that. Hm ... I'll have to think more on that notion ....

I like Sassy at least as much as I like Destiel--maybe more. Tender moments between Sam and Cas are so rare (and they make Sam so happy), I love them, too. I especially loved how Sam was the only one who gave Cas a chance when he was god!Cas and he went and prayed with complete sincerity (while Dean was just all "fuck you!" about the whole thing) and it paid off. Sam and Cas are more gentle with each other than Dean is capable of, they're more similar, and it's so very sweet.

Yay, a new friend! And back atcha.

[identity profile] toratio.livejournal.com 2013-10-11 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I am unapologetically a Sam!girl. I think it's because I'm the 'white sheep' in my family the way he is. But yeah, all the sympathy feels for episode 1.

Sam and Cas' relationship is really interesting, because Sam was so in awe of Cas, and tends to both treat him better and give him the benefit of the doubt more than Dean. I think they share a sense of having done wrong in the pursuit of trying to do right. And you're right, they are similar - I think what Dean loves and hates about Cas is the same as what he loves and hates about Sam.

My fave Sam and Cas moments are Sam saying he still wants to help Cas (isn't it beautiful? Makes me tear up) and Cas' devastation when he couldn't repair Sam's wall.

Dean's "we're family" is up there too, although it slightly tainted by the gag reel where Misha is forcing Jensen's face into his crotch. "You're my baby daddy."

New friendness ahoy!

[identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com 2013-10-12 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
'White sheep'! Yeah, me too! Maybe that is what us Sam girls generally have in common ... Always nice to meet a new Sam!girl! Odd that we seem many fewer in number than the Dean!girls.

ARRGHHH, I LOVE Cas's devastation when he can't repair Sam's wall! In fact, I'm just gonna come right out and say that "Born-Again Identity" must be my favorite episode ever, and my favorite moment in my favorite episode is probably that very moment, when Cas can only say, "Oh, Sam." They're forever connected, too, in the memories Cas took from Sam, thereby saving them both.

You know ... I can't get Misha forcing Jensen's face into his crotch out of my mind, either. Six years old, much? I adore Misha utterly, but sometimes he makes me go "hmm ...."

[identity profile] toratio.livejournal.com 2013-10-12 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
I've noticed that too. I think Sam!girls are a rare and beautiful breed. ;-)

Those two little words always make my heart skip whenever I watch that ep. It's probably the rawest you ever hear Cas' emotions. And the fact that he gave up his own sanity to save Sam's life. <3

Misha is interesting - he whinges all the time about Jared's behaviour, but he is clearly just as bad! His Twitter feed is outright bizarre sometimes.

[identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com 2013-10-12 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah ... Jared is REEEAAALLLY dickish to him, but then I see the kinds of things Misha does, and hear about things he's specifically done to Jared, and wonder if just maybe, Misha's self-pity is a bit out of place.

But that's one of the reasons I so love Misha--HE AIN'T LIKE ANYONE ELSE. That's one of my favorite things in anyone. At least Misha is never, ever boring.

[identity profile] toratio.livejournal.com 2013-10-15 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think Misha is jealous, personally. He totally gets out-trolled by Jared.

I love that Cas is like the antithesis of Misha. It makes Cas' straightness all the more hilarious.