I was a little surprised about the backlash against the scene with Sam and Toni, as well as Sam's torture in general. I've actually seen fics written before the premiere with Sam being sexually tortured.
What I think unsettled people was just how sexy the scene is made to be, probably because they're trying to lull the audience in to thinking that Sam was doing this consensually, and possibly to make people feel slightly violated for enjoying it. Supernatural has a habit of combining sex and violence/gore in different ways, and I didn't actually see it as more extreme than any other scenes we've seen.
From an in-universe point of view, it's pretty fucked up, and I kind of hope we get to see some fallout from it, that Sam maybe won't just be able to shake that off.
I think Dean is quite conflicted in the first two eps, because usually his only focus is on saving Sam, but he's got this curveball, and he's trying to manage both. Also, maybe because it's a human adversary he's not quite as worried? I don't know, I was surprised too by how underplayed it was, but I think you could probably say the same about Sam's hunt for demon!Dean, which took a while and wasn't all that frantic.
For me, Sam's kidnapping felt like a plot device to give Dean more time with Mary, so as to introduce that dynamic before throwing Sam in. There were actually a couple of lovely moments about Sam that could happen because he wasn't there - like Mary not knowing how to face him because of Yellow Eyes (and fuck it was amazing to get to that straight off the bat), and Dean being so proud of Sam going to Stanford.
I hope Toni becomes a more rounded character. We know she has a kid - so the mother thing is probably going to become important - but mostly she's kind of weird preppy evil. I found Mick more interesting, possibly because he seems more reasonable, and yet he sent for Mr Ketch (dun dun duuuun).
Sam and Mary at the end? Worth the whole ep. My Sam!girl heart was breaking. <3
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What I think unsettled people was just how sexy the scene is made to be, probably because they're trying to lull the audience in to thinking that Sam was doing this consensually, and possibly to make people feel slightly violated for enjoying it. Supernatural has a habit of combining sex and violence/gore in different ways, and I didn't actually see it as more extreme than any other scenes we've seen.
From an in-universe point of view, it's pretty fucked up, and I kind of hope we get to see some fallout from it, that Sam maybe won't just be able to shake that off.
I think Dean is quite conflicted in the first two eps, because usually his only focus is on saving Sam, but he's got this curveball, and he's trying to manage both. Also, maybe because it's a human adversary he's not quite as worried? I don't know, I was surprised too by how underplayed it was, but I think you could probably say the same about Sam's hunt for demon!Dean, which took a while and wasn't all that frantic.
For me, Sam's kidnapping felt like a plot device to give Dean more time with Mary, so as to introduce that dynamic before throwing Sam in. There were actually a couple of lovely moments about Sam that could happen because he wasn't there - like Mary not knowing how to face him because of Yellow Eyes (and fuck it was amazing to get to that straight off the bat), and Dean being so proud of Sam going to Stanford.
I hope Toni becomes a more rounded character. We know she has a kid - so the mother thing is probably going to become important - but mostly she's kind of weird preppy evil. I found Mick more interesting, possibly because he seems more reasonable, and yet he sent for Mr Ketch (dun dun duuuun).
Sam and Mary at the end? Worth the whole ep. My Sam!girl heart was breaking. <3