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I finally ended up seeing the final four eps of S11 of SPN all in one night, and I quite liked them all! Except the crappy-as-usual Buckner/Ross-Leming ep. Like, REALLY liked. I very seldom cry at SPN eps, especially on the first viewing, but 11.20 got me deep.

I'm pretty nervous for S12, now that worst-writer-ever Singer, who never really seemed to understand or respect Show, is one of the showrunners. :-[] The fact that Dabb wrote such an excellent season finale bodes well, though, and I like where it all seems to be going ... which I seem pretty much alone in? I'd love to hear y'all's thoughts on this.

I just loved the way S12 finally followed up on and tied up a bunch of outstanding issues, questions, gaps, etc., both in terms of plot and character, that have been left hanging since S5 or before (such as the amulet--not that I'm one of those who needed to see it again on an emotional level, but purely in terms of plot and story, I strongly felt, especially if they were going to bring God back, like they had to address it). I was nervous about them bringing God back and I didn't much want them to, but only because I was afraid it would be so hard to do it right, and then Robbie came through! And Rob and Curtis, awesome actors that they are. Because that was another plot issue I felt was left open that needed attention.

Now, they're both delving more into Men of Letters stuff--which, if they're going to introduce the MoL and have Sam and Dean live in the heart of the organization all this time, only makes sense--and bringing back Mary, which is the only way, as Amara said, to potentially heal some of Dean's crushing brokenness, and I am so eager for that. Plus, the criticism that Mary (and Jess) were only there to spur on the journeys of the (male) main characters and didn't have a real character of her own is a criticism I've heard many times. She's such a big spectre hanging over the whole show; I love the idea of them finally delving into that, their past, and that character, and seeing how that retroactively changes Sam and Dean's perspectives. I love it all. Go, Show!! Still doin' it right after all these years. <3 <3

Date: 2016-06-04 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiap.livejournal.com
I loved this season, and I'm looking forward to the next season. I love the idea that we're having other humans as the primary adversary going in to the next season.

I'm also stoked about Mary's return. What I'm hoping they do is get into the idea that Sam and Dean (and especially Sam) really don't know much about Mary as a person. Sam would have practically zero memory of her, and Dean's memories would primarily be of Mary as 'mommy.' What they know about her beyond that would all have been heavily filtered through John's perspective. I hope we'll get some surprises from Mary.

Date: 2016-06-05 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com
I love the idea that we're having other humans as the primary adversary going in to the next season.

Me too! It's so much fresher of a direction for Show than "What's an even bigger badder supernatural big bad?" Plus, Dean did say he got monsters, but people are crazy, so humans should provide a new kind of challenge for Sam and Dean. They're not so good when it comes to dealing with authority. And while Sam and Dean can pretty much just ignore the police, the MoL pose a genuine, perhaps extreme, threat. I just love it, and that it means we should get to learn more about the MoL, which could be very very cool. (And I love that our first modern, badass "Man of Letters" is a woman.)

Sam and Dean (and especially Sam) really don't know much about Mary as a person.

YES, this. They've lived their lives in large part based on an idea they had of this person. It could change everything about how they've perceived everything, depending on what they discover about her. Sam especially will be an interesting case, since he basically grew up completely without any concept of a mother, so what would that relationship mean to Sam and Mary? I love it.

Don't let us down, Dabb! I love what you're doing so far!

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