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I finally ended up seeing the final four eps of S11 of SPN all in one night, and I quite liked them all! Except the crappy-as-usual Buckner/Ross-Leming ep. Like, REALLY liked. I very seldom cry at SPN eps, especially on the first viewing, but 11.20 got me deep.

I'm pretty nervous for S12, now that worst-writer-ever Singer, who never really seemed to understand or respect Show, is one of the showrunners. :-[] The fact that Dabb wrote such an excellent season finale bodes well, though, and I like where it all seems to be going ... which I seem pretty much alone in? I'd love to hear y'all's thoughts on this.

I just loved the way S12 finally followed up on and tied up a bunch of outstanding issues, questions, gaps, etc., both in terms of plot and character, that have been left hanging since S5 or before (such as the amulet--not that I'm one of those who needed to see it again on an emotional level, but purely in terms of plot and story, I strongly felt, especially if they were going to bring God back, like they had to address it). I was nervous about them bringing God back and I didn't much want them to, but only because I was afraid it would be so hard to do it right, and then Robbie came through! And Rob and Curtis, awesome actors that they are. Because that was another plot issue I felt was left open that needed attention.

Now, they're both delving more into Men of Letters stuff--which, if they're going to introduce the MoL and have Sam and Dean live in the heart of the organization all this time, only makes sense--and bringing back Mary, which is the only way, as Amara said, to potentially heal some of Dean's crushing brokenness, and I am so eager for that. Plus, the criticism that Mary (and Jess) were only there to spur on the journeys of the (male) main characters and didn't have a real character of her own is a criticism I've heard many times. She's such a big spectre hanging over the whole show; I love the idea of them finally delving into that, their past, and that character, and seeing how that retroactively changes Sam and Dean's perspectives. I love it all. Go, Show!! Still doin' it right after all these years. <3 <3

Date: 2016-06-04 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
No, you're not alone in enjoying where it might be going! There are things I like and don't like about the show (almost in equal parts these days) but it's still My Show and I'm sticking with it.

I actually liked the way it ended (for a bunch of different reasons, some good some bad), but I do think it opens up lots of possibilities for 12. And personally, I kinda hope they dial back the CATACLYSMIC UNIVERSE-ENDED DRAMA. You just can't maintain that level of bombasticness (I just made that word up, yep). The friction needs to be made tighter, more intimate now. And they've set that up perfectly, IMHO.

Singer helped showrun with Kripke, if I recall, so his hand in Dabb's pot (hur hur) may not be as tramatic as feared. BuckLeming, however, is still probably on-board because of Singer; all we can hope is that they don't write a bazillion episodes.

Date: 2016-06-05 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com
I think I'm right where you are with the like/don't like ratio, especially the # of episodes I like vs. the # I don't, taking the last four seasons all together.

I'm intrigued about these things you liked for bad reasons, though ...

The friction needs to be made tighter, more intimate now.

YES. The stakes have to become personal. Any more saving-the-world would start getting ridiculous.

Singer helped showrun with Kripke, if I recall

Ohh, this is good news if true! I like that the media has apparently already reverted to only mentioning Dabb as showrunner.

And now it's time for Singer/Dabb slash fic with warnings for hand in pot.

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