Nesting Dolls
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brightly_litLast night, I dreamt I was watching a so-latter-day-SPN-it-hasn't-aired-yet ep while caranfindel was in the room doing her own thing. The ep was this meditation on addiction that seemed clearly a straight-up exploration of what the writer was thinking about that had nothing to do with SPN itself. I muttered some comment about how the writer couldn't be arsed to come up with anything that actually had anything to do with the show, and caranfindel piped up with a wholehearted agreement, which led to a rousing discussion between us on all things show-related, and which had other folks coming into the room to join into the chat. So basically, a physical representation of online SPN fandom!
I think I was actually thinking about Carver. Lately I've been realizing I think what I had the hardest time with about Carver's Supernatural is that he seemed to be trying to make it "more realistic," to bring reality into this ... story about two brothers who hunt monsters, which is ludicrous. For me, from the very beginning, at its best, the show rode this gloriously delicate line, which was a grittily realistic portrayal of an entirely metaphorical series of events designed to explore the deeper realities of human relationships and the human experience, like nesting dolls, multiple levels and dimensions utilized to get at something that is inherently complex and multi-dimensional. That's why I loved Show so much, because it was so layered. To treat it as reality all the way on down took away all the dimensions and made it flat ... and silly. Sooo silly, Carver. I'm lookin' at you. Yeah, that's right, I said it. ;-)
I'm liking Dabb's SPN far better than Carver's already, though Show is far from being what it was pre-Carver. I found the general stories of S12 fairly cohesive, I liked the characters they kept returning to, like Max and Alicia, Mary, and Claire (BOY was I tired of Crowley and Rowena drama, although Crowley in that last ep made me realize I'll miss him, at least a bit), I thought the themes were good. I'd love to see Max come back as one of S13's big bads (as some people have suggested might happen); I LOVE that actor, and his story is great, with much potential. Before this last season, it seemed like every storyline was a reprise of something SPN had already done, but the nephilim is also a good new idea ... well, at least, of ideas SPN has fully explored, since the antichrist was a similar idea with much potential that was introduced and abandoned. There's so much potential! Especially if he's a good guy at heart, or at least conflicted.
Otherwise, I'm incredibly excited about Summergen, as ever, although I haven't actually started on the fic yet because ... well, the whole theme I'm going to delve into with it kind of scares me; I've got to prepare and gird my loins before I dive in. What's going on with you all? How are your Summergen fics coming?
caranfindel was in the room doing her own thing. The ep was this meditation on addiction that seemed clearly a straight-up exploration of what the writer was thinking about that had nothing to do with SPN itself. I muttered some comment about how the writer couldn't be arsed to come up with anything that actually had anything to do with the show, and caranfindel piped up with a wholehearted agreement, which led to a rousing discussion between us on all things show-related, and which had other folks coming into the room to join into the chat. So basically, a physical representation of online SPN fandom!I think I was actually thinking about Carver. Lately I've been realizing I think what I had the hardest time with about Carver's Supernatural is that he seemed to be trying to make it "more realistic," to bring reality into this ... story about two brothers who hunt monsters, which is ludicrous. For me, from the very beginning, at its best, the show rode this gloriously delicate line, which was a grittily realistic portrayal of an entirely metaphorical series of events designed to explore the deeper realities of human relationships and the human experience, like nesting dolls, multiple levels and dimensions utilized to get at something that is inherently complex and multi-dimensional. That's why I loved Show so much, because it was so layered. To treat it as reality all the way on down took away all the dimensions and made it flat ... and silly. Sooo silly, Carver. I'm lookin' at you. Yeah, that's right, I said it. ;-)
I'm liking Dabb's SPN far better than Carver's already, though Show is far from being what it was pre-Carver. I found the general stories of S12 fairly cohesive, I liked the characters they kept returning to, like Max and Alicia, Mary, and Claire (BOY was I tired of Crowley and Rowena drama, although Crowley in that last ep made me realize I'll miss him, at least a bit), I thought the themes were good. I'd love to see Max come back as one of S13's big bads (as some people have suggested might happen); I LOVE that actor, and his story is great, with much potential. Before this last season, it seemed like every storyline was a reprise of something SPN had already done, but the nephilim is also a good new idea ... well, at least, of ideas SPN has fully explored, since the antichrist was a similar idea with much potential that was introduced and abandoned. There's so much potential! Especially if he's a good guy at heart, or at least conflicted.
Otherwise, I'm incredibly excited about Summergen, as ever, although I haven't actually started on the fic yet because ... well, the whole theme I'm going to delve into with it kind of scares me; I've got to prepare and gird my loins before I dive in. What's going on with you all? How are your Summergen fics coming?
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Date: 2017-06-02 09:25 am (UTC)Oddly enough, I like some realism on my very unreal show. Keeps things grounded. Maybe that's why I don't like The French Mistake. Anything that reminds me I'm watching A Show, rather than pretending these guys actually exist, is distracting. Although subtler shoutouts to the fandom are awesome. (Then why did I love Fan Fiction? Discuss.)
I'm doing Summergen for the first time this year and I'm still in the percolating stages. I've got ideas but I'm really concerned about disappointing my recipient.
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Date: 2017-06-07 01:30 am (UTC)Ooh, I'm psyched you're doing Summergen! I've been through being afraid of disappointing my recipient, and I'm pretty much over it, because I have to say, people seem to like the stories written directly to their prompts less than the ones where the person just wrote what they felt like writing, however loosely it may connect to their prompts. (After all, I think most of us came up with a set of prompts not because we're desperate to see these stories written than because doing so was a requirement of signing up for Summergen! ;->) Also because I've seldom received a story I really loved, and I don't know that my recipients liked the story I wrote for them that much, but in the end it doesn't feel like any of that diminishes the value of participating.
Good luck, bb! I hope writing goes well!
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Date: 2017-06-02 11:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-06-07 01:44 am (UTC)I hope one inspires you soon! <3
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Date: 2017-06-02 11:47 am (UTC)I'm glad you're excited about the themes you're going to be exploring. I know what you mean about needing to gird your loins to tackle something, though. Which is harrowing but also where the best fic comes from. <333 Good luck! I'm excited to read~
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Date: 2017-06-07 01:41 am (UTC)I finished mine, too! Just this past weekend. The whole idea behind it was so personal for me, and it's kind of conceptual horror, so I was afraid the process of writing it would be terrifying, but it wasn't so bad, and it ended up feeling pretty liberating! ... Which might seem weird in context of the decidedly hopeless, brutal place it ends up, but, well, it's weird and complicated, but in a funny way I wrote myself out of something that's had me tied up my whole life. SUMMERGEN, THE BEST FIC EXCHANGE, THE BEEEEST. I CAN'T WAIT TO READ YOURS, EITHERRRR! (Speaking of, just recently I thought I might tackle doing a podfic of your fic for emma last summer, would you be up for that?)
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Date: 2017-06-07 01:54 am (UTC)I'm glad the process was liberating! That's awesome. And as for I wrote myself out of something that's had me tied up my whole life. I ABSOLUTELY understand that! <33333
(You are always welcome to pod! You do it the best. <333)