SPN Season El-Heaven

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I finally ended up seeing the final four eps of S11 of SPN all in one night, and I quite liked them all! Except the crappy-as-usual Buckner/Ross-Leming ep. Like, REALLY liked. I very seldom cry at SPN eps, especially on the first viewing, but 11.20 got me deep.

I'm pretty nervous for S12, now that worst-writer-ever Singer, who never really seemed to understand or respect Show, is one of the showrunners. :-[] The fact that Dabb wrote such an excellent season finale bodes well, though, and I like where it all seems to be going ... which I seem pretty much alone in? I'd love to hear y'all's thoughts on this.

I just loved the way S12 finally followed up on and tied up a bunch of outstanding issues, questions, gaps, etc., both in terms of plot and character, that have been left hanging since S5 or before (such as the amulet--not that I'm one of those who needed to see it again on an emotional level, but purely in terms of plot and story, I strongly felt, especially if they were going to bring God back, like they had to address it). I was nervous about them bringing God back and I didn't much want them to, but only because I was afraid it would be so hard to do it right, and then Robbie came through! And Rob and Curtis, awesome actors that they are. Because that was another plot issue I felt was left open that needed attention.

Now, they're both delving more into Men of Letters stuff--which, if they're going to introduce the MoL and have Sam and Dean live in the heart of the organization all this time, only makes sense--and bringing back Mary, which is the only way, as Amara said, to potentially heal some of Dean's crushing brokenness, and I am so eager for that. Plus, the criticism that Mary (and Jess) were only there to spur on the journeys of the (male) main characters and didn't have a real character of her own is a criticism I've heard many times. She's such a big spectre hanging over the whole show; I love the idea of them finally delving into that, their past, and that character, and seeing how that retroactively changes Sam and Dean's perspectives. I love it all. Go, Show!! Still doin' it right after all these years. <3 <3

Comments

[milly-gal.livejournal.com]

Ahhh so much love for this post, you have no idea!!

[anactoria.livejournal.com]

I like where it all seems to be going ... which I seem pretty much alone in?

Nooo, you're not alone! While I wasn't super keen on 'Chuck-is-God' being canonised, I loved the finale, and I'm rather looking forward to S12. I'm glad that the show seems to have lowered the cosmic stakes a little -- because big world-is-ending stake don't always mean big emotional stakes -- and brought in something a bit more human for Sam and Dean to face next season.

/desperately ignoring that Singer is co-showrunner, because dammit, we're never getting rid of BuckLemming now, are we?

[sophiap.livejournal.com]

I loved this season, and I'm looking forward to the next season. I love the idea that we're having other humans as the primary adversary going in to the next season.

I'm also stoked about Mary's return. What I'm hoping they do is get into the idea that Sam and Dean (and especially Sam) really don't know much about Mary as a person. Sam would have practically zero memory of her, and Dean's memories would primarily be of Mary as 'mommy.' What they know about her beyond that would all have been heavily filtered through John's perspective. I hope we'll get some surprises from Mary.

[quickreaver.livejournal.com]

No, you're not alone in enjoying where it might be going! There are things I like and don't like about the show (almost in equal parts these days) but it's still My Show and I'm sticking with it.

I actually liked the way it ended (for a bunch of different reasons, some good some bad), but I do think it opens up lots of possibilities for 12. And personally, I kinda hope they dial back the CATACLYSMIC UNIVERSE-ENDED DRAMA. You just can't maintain that level of bombasticness (I just made that word up, yep). The friction needs to be made tighter, more intimate now. And they've set that up perfectly, IMHO.

Singer helped showrun with Kripke, if I recall, so his hand in Dabb's pot (hur hur) may not be as tramatic as feared. BuckLeming, however, is still probably on-board because of Singer; all we can hope is that they don't write a bazillion episodes.

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

For me there were parts that I loved about the last four episodes, and parts that I only liked. I loved the whole absent father trope that we've seen from the very beginning of Show, and part of me was quite sad to see that go, but they were certainly building to an SPN!God reveal as soon as we heard about Amara being the sister. And it does make we wonder if we'll now see John?

Like you say, I think I'm ready to scale and dial back when it comes to 'the big bad'; seeing a human threat, and a threat that could be born from MoL knowledge over brawn, has all kinds of potential, as does the Mary story line. So yeah, bring it one Show!!!! :)

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

No, you're not alone, I LOVED Season 11 and I was really pleased with the ending as I was hoping Amara would see some good in what Chuck had created and not want to destroy it all. Of course, she saw plenty of good in Dean and who can blame her, he's pretty much Chuck's best creation!

I am looking forward to seeing what happens with the MoL story, and although 'Lady Posh-stereotype' was a bit annoying, it's always good to see another strong female character.

And Mary! What a shock! I hope we get to see her both as a kickass hunter, and the mom the boys desperately need.